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	<title>Comments on: Homelessness Violates Basic Human Rights</title>
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		<title>By: MomGrind</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2008/05/15/homelessness/#comment-13768</link>
		<dc:creator>MomGrind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, I am not a U.S. attorney, so nothing I say should be construed as any kind of legal advice, but as far as I know, a private business has the right to refuse service. However, refusing service can in some cases be considered discrimination, especially if it is done consistently and solely to a certain protected group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, I am not a U.S. attorney, so nothing I say should be construed as any kind of legal advice, but as far as I know, a private business has the right to refuse service. However, refusing service can in some cases be considered discrimination, especially if it is done consistently and solely to a certain protected group.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter from Bend Oregon</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2008/05/15/homelessness/#comment-13765</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter from Bend Oregon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an attorney who has met with two homeless people who have been excluded by the management of a grocery store.  The exclusion may or may not be justified; however, is there any law on the subject of excluding homeless people from stores or malls, and under what circumstances is it permitted or not permitted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an attorney who has met with two homeless people who have been excluded by the management of a grocery store.  The exclusion may or may not be justified; however, is there any law on the subject of excluding homeless people from stores or malls, and under what circumstances is it permitted or not permitted?</p>
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		<title>By: MomGrind</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2008/05/15/homelessness/#comment-864</link>
		<dc:creator>MomGrind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kelly: please don&#039;t apologize. I completely agree. Even if some will use the system, most homeless people are at a place where they need help and cannot possibly pull out of their situation by themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kelly: please don&#8217;t apologize. I completely agree. Even if some will use the system, most homeless people are at a place where they need help and cannot possibly pull out of their situation by themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly@SHE-POWER</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2008/05/15/homelessness/#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly@SHE-POWER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 06:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my ten cents worth, homelessness is a problem whether people want to give examples of how certain people choose to be homeless or not take jobs or whatever. that does not negate the fact that Australia and America are both countries where everyone should flourish and they don&#039;t. That is not okay and making excuses by saying homeless people (as in the group, not one individual) choose their situation just shows how naive some people are about life.

I can&#039;t comment with authority on the USA, but from what I read the homeless problem is worse than in Australia (we have a reasonable social benefits system) and it&#039;s bad enough here. I&#039;ve worked the soup kitchens and shelters and most of the people on the street have mental disease and those who don&#039;t are so broken as human beings it&#039;s gut wrenching. Many have no families or come from families you&#039;d never want to have anyway. They have sunk so low they think scrounging through garbage bins is a life. Does that sound like someone who can pull himself together to get a job and communicate with average people with their judgments? And that&#039;s not even talking about the junkies and drunks and the people who have resorted to selling ass. 

It&#039;s true you can&#039;t save someone who doesn&#039;t want to save themselves, but these days society is so intoxicated with the stories of life&#039;s winners and so want to be a winner themselves, they don&#039;t want to know about the losers. From them, we turn away.

Sorry, if I&#039;ve got a bit intense about this but I have very strong feelings about poverty, disadvantage and mental illness in wealthy western natures like ours.

Kelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my ten cents worth, homelessness is a problem whether people want to give examples of how certain people choose to be homeless or not take jobs or whatever. that does not negate the fact that Australia and America are both countries where everyone should flourish and they don&#8217;t. That is not okay and making excuses by saying homeless people (as in the group, not one individual) choose their situation just shows how naive some people are about life.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t comment with authority on the USA, but from what I read the homeless problem is worse than in Australia (we have a reasonable social benefits system) and it&#8217;s bad enough here. I&#8217;ve worked the soup kitchens and shelters and most of the people on the street have mental disease and those who don&#8217;t are so broken as human beings it&#8217;s gut wrenching. Many have no families or come from families you&#8217;d never want to have anyway. They have sunk so low they think scrounging through garbage bins is a life. Does that sound like someone who can pull himself together to get a job and communicate with average people with their judgments? And that&#8217;s not even talking about the junkies and drunks and the people who have resorted to selling ass. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s true you can&#8217;t save someone who doesn&#8217;t want to save themselves, but these days society is so intoxicated with the stories of life&#8217;s winners and so want to be a winner themselves, they don&#8217;t want to know about the losers. From them, we turn away.</p>
<p>Sorry, if I&#8217;ve got a bit intense about this but I have very strong feelings about poverty, disadvantage and mental illness in wealthy western natures like ours.</p>
<p>Kelly</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2008/05/15/homelessness/#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t understand why spend $12 Billion on Iraq and we have people in the America who are homeless and hungry. Am I missing something here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t understand why spend $12 Billion on Iraq and we have people in the America who are homeless and hungry. Am I missing something here?</p>
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		<title>By: Bloggers Unite for Human Rights &#124; Crunchy Domestic Goddess</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2008/05/15/homelessness/#comment-784</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloggers Unite for Human Rights &#124; Crunchy Domestic Goddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MomGrind</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2008/05/15/homelessness/#comment-782</link>
		<dc:creator>MomGrind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ phyllis: “i can’t imagine being a “regular” at that place and not feeling like this guy should be my own special project.” EXACTLY!!!

@ Marelisa: it’s very true that there will always be those who take advantage of a strong social system. However, I still believe that a society needs to provide support to the weak and ill – even if in some cases it will encourage certain individuals to exploit the system. 

@ Andre: The best way I found so far to handle this is to donate. Glad you feel the same.

@ Miranda: small town Utah… I love how the internet connects people from different places and backgrounds. I suppose homeless people choose the city because they have better chances of surviving there – better access to shelters and to more people who would give them money.

@ Suzie: this just goes to show you how sheltered my life is. I have never seen a homeless shelter. 

@ Jen: “It’s difficult to see another human being reduced this way.” Exactly. 

@ Belem: Thank you so much for saying that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ phyllis: “i can’t imagine being a “regular” at that place and not feeling like this guy should be my own special project.” EXACTLY!!!</p>
<p>@ Marelisa: it’s very true that there will always be those who take advantage of a strong social system. However, I still believe that a society needs to provide support to the weak and ill – even if in some cases it will encourage certain individuals to exploit the system. </p>
<p>@ Andre: The best way I found so far to handle this is to donate. Glad you feel the same.</p>
<p>@ Miranda: small town Utah… I love how the internet connects people from different places and backgrounds. I suppose homeless people choose the city because they have better chances of surviving there – better access to shelters and to more people who would give them money.</p>
<p>@ Suzie: this just goes to show you how sheltered my life is. I have never seen a homeless shelter. </p>
<p>@ Jen: “It’s difficult to see another human being reduced this way.” Exactly. </p>
<p>@ Belem: Thank you so much for saying that.</p>
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