Oops. I Accidentally Got Involved In a Blogging War

Posted July 1st, 2008 by MomGrind

 

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Do you feel that you know me?

At all? Just a little?

What if I did something weird, or out of character, or something that you considered as mean or wrong? Would you immediately unsubscribe? Would you give me the benefit of the doubt?

If you know me at all, you know that I HATE politics, on the internet and in real life. I can’t stand power struggles, or people being mean to each other. There’s enough pain in the world already without us adding to it.

So, when I recently posted a comment on a prominent blogger’s blog, because I thought that her post was very well-written, real and authentic, I had no idea that the post was written to support her stance in a blogging war between herself and another blogger.

When I realized what was going on, thanks to Deb, I actually felt sick. I would NEVER knowingly take sides in a blogging war. I have no interest in these things. I wish these things would never happen. I wish people would just LEAVE EACH OTHER ALONE.

I lost subscribers after posting that comment. No, this is not about me, but it IS sad that people were so quick to assume things about me and take sides. I know that you guys are still here (thank you SMOOCH) and the ones that left… I probably don’t want them as subscribers anyway. But the speed in which things happened was quite shocking.

No, this is not about me. But it touched me. And it was UGLY.

Life is just too short for these things.


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68 Responses to: “Oops. I Accidentally Got Involved In a Blogging War”

  1. Scott McIntyre responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 3:02 am

    As a relative newcomer to reading blogs, I’ve read so much advice that the building of supportive relationships between bloggers can only benefit both parties.

    I’m not sure who this A list blogger is, and it is probably best not to identify them as this will only add fuel to the fire.

    I agree with your view that positive relationships can only help grow any business- whether online or off.

    It’s a real pity that a flame war seems to have erupted and you were unwittingly burnt by it.

    Your loyal subscribers won’t desert you. We recognise the integrity of your writing.

  2. Joel Falconer responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 4:48 am

    I feel your pain as I’ve unwittingly entered into such disputes before. I didn’t know I was doing it, and I was peeved when people took me as taking a stance once I’d caught up on what was happening. And I do mean “I feel your pain” because I know the way the jaw clenches and heart beats when you’ve been misconstrued in any manner. At least with me—there’s nothing I hate more than being taken the wrong way!

    I’m with you; the whole concept of “blogger wars” in itself is juvenile, just like politics. I mean, c’mon, get a life! Who do people starting and participating in these ‘wars’ think they are? I never partake in these things and when I feel there’s potential for a conflict to begin between myself and another writer, I do my best to defuse it as quickly and peacefully as I can.

    As for the subscribers you’ve lost, you’re totally right. Screw ‘em. They’re the kind of juveniles who take these skirmishes seriously, and that doesn’t reflect on their character well in any scenario. We all love ya and will be reading your next post. Even if my wife does make jokes about me reading a mommy blog ;)
    Joel Falconer’s last blog post..Digital Task Lists are the Harbingers of Doom

  3. Kelly@SHE-POWER responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 5:04 am

    Vered, it sounds like you learned a valuable lesson here. You can’t be yourself - even your most beautiful ethical self - and keep all your subscribers. Some will make snap judgments about you over the tiniest things and unsubscribe. You just have to keep in mind while you blog and if it’s like me and it’s the connection you love, then you only want to be connected to good like minded people.

    I have no idea what you’re talking about with this thing and I’m very curious (email me!), but I can tell you I lost over 30 subscribers when I posted Do We Need Religion If We Have Faith and at the time I was shocked to get such an immediate negative reaction. I even knew who some of the subscribers were because they had been commenting and then they just dropped me like hotcakes. At first I was upset and then I realised I can’t be someone else’s vision of me. This blog is about expressing myself and it’s done for love so if I’m nt having fun then there’s no point.

    Don’t worry about lost subscribers. If you love the audience you have and are still having fun, then you’re on top of the world.

    Kel x

    Kelly@SHE-POWER’s last blog post..Quote of the Week and My Next Post

  4. Sara responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 5:47 am

    I know this must suck, but there’s something kinda funny about it. I mean, you’re like the nicest, most supportive blogger out there. It just seems odd that people would be offended by you. I’m sure I’ll stumble into the same vat of icky stickiness at some time because I don’t really track into the politics of blogging. Either way, I have no idea what the comment was or the original issue, but I’m still here reading. You’ve already earned my respect many times over.

    Sara’s last blog post..What Elizabeth Taylor Can Teach Us About Simplicity

  5. Jill responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 6:49 am

    Always, ALWAYS be yourself.

  6. Hunter Nuttall responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 6:49 am

    I didn’t even know blogging wars existed. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one, and I don’t think I’d be too likely to start one (though I might inadvertently). But it seems pretty dumb to unsubscribe based on one post, without giving the benefit of the doubt. And you don’t need those people anyway.

    Hunter Nuttall’s last blog post..Free Ebook: Memoirs Of A Gaijin

  7. RJ responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 6:59 am

    You can’t please everybody Vered, you’ll just drive yourself nuts. Think of this experience as a high-colonic for your blog. You’ll feel better in the long run knowing that the “impurities” have been washed out ^_^

  8. Tim Brownson responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 7:27 am

    LMAO at RJ - Great metaphor mate!

    Vered, here’s my take on this fwiw. I have got edgier and edgier over the last 3 or 4 months. The reason being is, it is my blog and I want to push people to help them improve the quality of their lives and you don’t do that by repeating the same behavior over and over.

    A fellow blogger said to me and I’m paraphrasing “I need to write more articles on such and such because that’s what my readers want” “No” I rather rudely said “You need to write more articles like that, you need to write more posts that fire YOU up and screw your readers (metaphorically speaking of course). You may lose some subscribers initially, but new readers will come that like what you like and admire your honesty and integrity. You’re not being true to yourself doing anything else imho and in time it will show”

    The other thing is, are you really bothered about losing readers that are prepared to judge so easily and with so little knowledge of what’s really going on?

    I think you should name the blog in question and we can all go and storm the ramparts!!

    None of this is real you know ;-)
    Tim Brownson’s last blog post..Free Means Free Until It Doesn’t

  9. Sarah responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 7:31 am

    I’m sorry you feel so badly about it. :( I would, too. I can’t stand internet wars and politics either. I usually think, who has the emotional and physical energy, and time to actually DO that?

    Could you delete your comment? I guess if you could have, you probably already would have.

    You seem like a very peaceful, encouraging person to me and I would have a hard time believing you’d do that, and I’m sure anyone who sticks around to really get to know you feels the same way too!

    (((hug)))

    Sarah’s last blog post..Lets Plan Our Dream Backyards.

  10. phain responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 8:03 am

    screw ‘em. seriously. who needs such fickle readers/lurkers. you felt justified in the comment you made so don’t back away from it. let it stand for what it is. the rest can exit stage left.

    phain’s last blog post..I Am Batman

  11. Ann responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 8:03 am

    Yikes - blogger wars! I don’t even know what that means.

    I have had the experience of participating in message boards where people get downright mean. Sometimes the threads will go on and on. I’ve learned which posters to avoid because it upsets me and it certainly is NOT helpful! Some posters even pride themselves on being “snarky” - or rude, in my opinion.

    Sorry that happened to you Vered; it sounds really petty and that’s not you!
    Ann

    Ann’s last blog post..More Doing, Less Posting

  12. San Diego Momma responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 8:14 am

    I’m sorry this became so unpleasant. It’s too bad and so so needless.
    BUT, you responded from the heart, authentically, and nobody can fault you for that.

    Your core readers, the ones like me who love the whole you, will not leave. And those are the ones you want around anyway.

    Deb

    San Diego Momma’s last blog post..PROMPTuesday #11: The Infomercial

  13. hyrcan responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 8:17 am

    Hahaha… I’m sorry… can’t stop laughing. Not at you Vered… at them.

    Blogging war? Really? What is this 6th Grade? Jr. High? Alright… Everyone back into your own little clicks like good automatons.

    It’s sad when people have nothing better to do than to revert back to childish mud slinging and un-constructive criticism, or just can’t take criticism. And why does everyone always assume people take sides… there are no ’sides’ in life.

    Sure, leave constructive criticism, help each other out. Learn from others and take what they say with a grain of salt, but listen. But don’t revert back to grade school. That’s just dumb.

    Vered, be true to yourself, and kind to others and your actions and posts will speak for themselves. Anyone who choose to take them out of context, or to project their own feelings onto them need to do some self reflection.

    …blogwars… like I’m back in freaking Jr. High all over again.

    I would like to point out that if people would stop pretending there’s some barrier between “real” and “online” relationships, things may be different… though I know people who are jerks in real life… so perhaps not.

    hyrcan’s last blog post..More Than Just A Number

  14. Mrs. Micah responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 8:41 am

    One big reason I try to avoid politics on and off the blog. Social, national, whatever. Sure people will disagree with me, maybe I hold small arguments in a comments section, but wars…nej tak.

  15. Linda Abbit responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 8:45 am

    While this hasn’t happened to me, I do feel your pain, Vered! I’d absolutely hate for something like this to happen to me, on line or off line.

    I’m with you 100% re politics too, of any kind — YUCK!

    Thank you for sharing so that we could all learn from your tough experience.

    Make peace not war.

  16. DavinaH responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 9:40 am

    Hi Vered.
    I didn’t know blogging wars existed! Isn’t anything sacred anymore? Geez. All I can say about those who unsubscribed is that it’s their loss.

    DavinaH’s last blog post..Hello My Friend

  17. Becky responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 9:50 am

    I’m shocked that anyone would take offense at you, my friend. I’m just shocked.

  18. Bamboo Forest responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 10:07 am

    “blogging war” I honestly never knew such a thing existed. Peculiar.

    Bamboo Forest’s last blog post..Making People Feel Appreciated can Make You Rich

  19. Mark Salinas responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 10:38 am

    People often will jump to conclusions unfortunately. I love your site and thank you for sharing.

    Mark Salinas’s last blog post..Bouncing for Fun and Health

  20. Dot H. responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 10:49 am

    I’ve seen flaming bring whole listservs to a screaming halt. I’ll never understand what makes people need to rage at strangers. I don’t understand why they don’t just leave and go elsewhere. It’s made me pretty timid about posting anything about religion or politics, that’s for sure.

    So, given that there is a blog war, perhaps it’s better that they left than if they had stayed and flamed you over and over and over.

  21. Marelisa responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 11:53 am

    You know Vered, those A-list bloggers really need to find a way to resolve their dispute, otherwise they’ll just end up destroying each other’s reputation. I wouldn’t want to be subscribed to a blog where the author is attacking another blogger, although I guess most people love soap operas. I’m sorry you feel bad, but I’m sure your subscriber count will go back up to where it was real soon.

    Marelisa’s last blog post..How Gratitude Can Change Your Life

  22. Ellen Wilson responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Vered,

    How bizarre. People can easily misconstrue things in the comment section.

    I remember one time when I was at Deb Ng’s blog and some journalist person commented about the Scott Someone or Other case (he killed his wife and unborn baby) and I said well, the guy was a sociopath the way he was portrayed in the US media. Then the person sent a reply trying to undermine my intelligence (which I thought was kind of funny) stating that he/she knew quite a bit about the case. Well, that was fair. I said, look, I was sorry, and I should look into it more before I make up my mind, and all I had to go on was what I read in the US media. I mean, I could have got all hot under the collar and said look, a***hole, I don’t appreciate your passive aggresive comment about my intelligence. That probably would have started a flame war.

    Sometimes I get angry but I have to take a step back. I really don’t mind if people disagree. In fact, I think it’s healthy. I think there is a respectful way to do it.

    I think it’s easy for people to get “rid” of people online because they view it as a disposable environment. I mean really, would they dump one of their friends because of miscommunication? That’s silly. It’s like they are “punishing” you or something. I don’t know what happened but of course I”m curious now.

    Ellen Wilson’s last blog post..Brevity is Best for Blogs

  23. Natural responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    If I “knew” you well, I wouldn’t be quick to judge and even if I didn’t know you well, I wouldn’t be so quick to judge. We, as bloggers, don’t always have to agree on everything written.

    I left a comment on a blog that was considered mean and that wasn’t the case. I just didn’t explain my comment well enough and I apologized because most people don’t intend to be mean, especially if they leave their info.

    it’s hard to tell from the written word, but if you know someone well that should trump whatever was written. a friend of mine hurt my feelings for NOT knowing me and thinking i could even do what she accused me of. you think people know you and then they pull THIS behavior.

    I’m not unsubscribing.

    Natural’s last blog post..No Internet Connection

  24. chris responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    Like DavinaH said I too had no knowledge that blogging war existed. So what exactly do you get when you win “the blogging war”?

    Don’t worry, I’m still on your side come hell or high water…

    Blogging War, geeeeesssssshhhhhhhhhh.

    chris’s last blog post..Are You Patriotic?

  25. Nette @ Smiling Mom responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    I’d typically give the benefit of the doubt, but become guarded. :-)

  26. Emsxiety responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Im still here, Im still reading. In the grand scheme of things, a blogging war really doesn’t rank all that high up there for me in life!

    Emsxiety’s last blog post..Death -sometimes I understand you

  27. Robin responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    Good heavens! That’s all I can say. Good heavens! Annoying that this goes on on your holiday/break, Vered. That woman is taking herself so seriously - she needs to get a life!

    Robin’s last blog post..How I Found Immortality

  28. MizFit responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    wow.
    I must need to get out on the information superhighway a bit more because I really had NO IDEA this stuff happened.

    huh.

    Miz.

    MizFit’s last blog post..Tues Tip. Rocco style.

  29. magpie responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Life’s too short.

  30. theramblinghousewife responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    I’m completely lost!
    But I’m still subscribed! ;)
    theramblinghousewife’s last blog post..Guilty as Charged

  31. Dr.Cason responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    I too have never heard of a blogging war. Do they declare it outright? Who throws down the gauntlet? How do they know who’s won? by the comments? To me the post is a post. And if it’s well written and from the heart then supporting the post doesn’t necessarily mean you are choosing sides. It’s just expresing an opinion.

    I’m not a petty person either and have marveled at the ease in which people quickly revert to comfortable petty ways. The PTO here just had a big scene. Really bizarre behavior and I’m rethinking whether I want to even be in it!

    BTW I found you through Blogging without a Blog! :)
    Dr.Cason’s last blog post..They Didn’t Teach Me This in Medical School

  32. Barbara Swafford responds:
    Posted: July 1st, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Hi Vered,

    I’m a little late for the party, but know I have your back.

    Like many of the others, I don’t know what a blogging war is, but I do know you would NEVER leave a comment that was meant to be anything but genuine. I’m a loyal reader of yours, and always will be.

    Barbara Swafford’s last blog post..Decorating Our Home In Blogosphere

  33. Christina responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 1:57 am

    Vered- You’ll always have me as a dedicated reader. I hope you continue to always be YOURSELF because that is why I keep coming back to your blog. :-)
    Christina’s last blog post..Small World [pic]

  34. CharlesP responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 6:03 am

    Am I the only one with the morbid curiosity (and maybe too much time on his hands at work) to ask (or so cluelessly out of touch with a section of the blogging community as to not know) who the two bloggers were and where one could find this war?

    CharlesP’s last blog post..Gas for $3.50 in GA?

  35. Cath Lawson responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 9:05 am

    Hi Vered - That is bad. But you weren’t to know. I’ve seen bloggers attack other bloggers before and it’s not pleasant. They should think about how they would feel if someone did the same thing to them.

  36. Randall responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Blogging wars? I’d actually never heard of such a thing. Some people just have too much time on their hands. You’re a wonderful lady Vered. Sorry to hear about this experience. Just keep being you, because as the comments show, you are a valued person!

    Randall’s last blog post..Wordless Wednesday

  37. Shilpan | successsoul.com responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Vered ~

    It’s sad if what you’ve mentioned really happens on the blogospeher. But, I know you and I know that you’re the most kindest and loving heart on the blogoshphere. No pun intended. Keep up the good work and forget about pleasing everyone one. Live your life the way you want… I’m with you ALWAYS!!

    Shilpan

  38. Stephanie responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    So, do blog wars have a theme song? Ride of the Valkyries, perhaps?

    Stephanie’s last blog post..Could Auctions Be the Home Business for You?

  39. Amanda - The Mom Crowd responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    I read Deb’s post and this post yesterday and didn’t have a chance to comment. I have no idea what is going on - but like the others here - I got your back! You truly are one of the nicest people I have met in cyberspace and that is why I keep coming back for more.

    Amanda - The Mom Crowd’s last blog post..Book Review: The Best Old Movies For Families

  40. Rebecca (Ramblings by Reba) responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Ugh… I’m so sorry!

    I’ve been fortunate not to have found myself in any “pickles” related to online stuff — so far. At least not this time around. In a previous online “life” years ago, I found myself in some weird situations.

    That sounded so scandalous, and, really, it is anything but.

    I’m sorry you lost subscribers over this, but I think this is THEIR loss. I’m glad I found your blog, and I hope to visit again soon. :)
    Rebecca (Ramblings by Reba)’s last blog post..Time…

  41. Urban Panther responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    A-List Blogger? Wow! Is that like being Paris Hilton of the Blogging Crowd? And here I thought it was all about sharing and RESPECTING opinions, adventures, thoughts, ideas…How come I didn’t get the A-List memo? Sigh, I am always so behind the times. *smile*

    Seriously, people come and go, be it virtually or in real life. Being true to yourself is what really counts.

    Urban Panther’s last blog post..The Romantic Lion

  42. phyllis responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    oy vey. i’m still here. this too shall pass….

    phyllis’s last blog post..Why Send Your Kids to Jewish Summer Camp?

  43. Your Opinions Could Offend Someone | The Writers Manifesto Blog responds:
    Posted: July 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 pm

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  44. Evelyn Lim | Attraction Mind Map responds:
    Posted: July 3rd, 2008 at 1:53 am

    Huh??? I was away for almost a day and I returned to see your post about being involved in a blogging war! Like many others, I have no clue what this is.

    Look at things on the bright side. You may have lost some subscribers but you’ve got close to 47 comments from friends or fans who are showing their support for you here. I would wish for that many comments myself!

    If it helps, I’m also going to be stumbling on this post…to show my firm support.

    Well, sleep over it! There are more important things to fight for, rather than the loss of subscribers who are not loyal. Continue to roar with your posts!

    Hugs,
    Evelyn

    Evelyn Lim | Attraction Mind Map’s last blog post..How To Multiply The Energy Behind Focused Attention

  45. CharlesP responds:
    Posted: July 3rd, 2008 at 5:50 am

    Having now read the post you commented on… how the heck was anybody to know that was actually even related to the kerfuffle (is there a right way to spell that word?) on twitter? Tempest in a teacup the whole thing IMHO (and somebody getting ticked at you about your comment is just plain silly… or stupid).

    I’m curious how you track your feed numbers, because I recall a totally unrelated blog (it was podcaster Mur Lafferty I think) mentioning feedburner (I think it was feedburner… memory bad… blocked websites at work make it tough to track down info without full access to my google brain) having some issues with reporting in the past few days and their numbers had dropped drastically for no apparent reason.

    CharlesP’s last blog post..Gas for $3.50 in GA?

  46. Lin responds:
    Posted: July 3rd, 2008 at 9:56 am

    First time here, having found you through…um….I’ve forgotten already. But I’ve seen a few blog war posts recently, including the one on Twitter, and I find it extremely juvenile. I’m a new subscriber here, and you will surely get more subscribers so I wouldn’t worry at all about those you may have lost throughout this nonsense. I look forward to getting to know ya better on Twitter and here in your comments.

    Lin’s last blog post..Children and Divorce: How to Tell Children About Your Divorce

  47. crunchy carpets responds:
    Posted: July 3rd, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Exactly..I can’t stand the CHILDISHNESS of it all!!!

    It really makes us as women bloggers look pathetic…all this huffy unsubscribing and side taking and the FLURRY of SUPPORT posts and hug comments and on and on…

    Everything gets blown up to extremes…..

    This was a MINOR issue…….we are not supposed to all love each other….but really..do adults call people names online or real life?

    And do we all have to be involved?
    These internet things turn into such HUGE issues where there was only a minor one….

    Well….

  48. Jonathan B. responds:
    Posted: July 3rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    You said it best. You don’t want those subscribers anyway. But still, I’m sorry to hear about that. Take care! :)
    Jonathan B.’s last blog post..Assassins do it from behind.

  49. Blogging War of Words - Live and Let Live | Telling It Like It Is responds:
    Posted: July 3rd, 2008 at 3:48 pm

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  50. hank responds:
    Posted: July 5th, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Also take into consideration that you may have just seen a drop in the Feedburner site at ironically the same time! I know, completely random, but possible nonetheless since the site has been taken over by Google, who knows! :)

    I’ll stick with you still ;)

  51. Kmommy responds:
    Posted: July 9th, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Ugh! Yes, I think I actually read your comment - the funny thing is that I also didn’t realize that the post was having to do with a blog war, and I either commented or thought about commenting (I suppose I better go check before I lose the five or less subscribers I have ;) ). It all seems so junior high. And it’s horrible that you lost subscribers because of it. I agree, everyone *should* just be supportive of each other…

    Kmommy’s last blog post..Wordless Wednesday: What to do with a toybox

  52. Opal @ Vegan Momma responds:
    Posted: July 12th, 2008 at 4:24 am

    I’m sorry that happened to you, I never understood the entire blogging war thing. I’ve had a few people jump to conclusions about things I have written instead of asking me they came up with their own assumptions. It sure is annoying. People jump to conclusions much too quickly. A shame.

    I just discovered your blog (thanks to Monika) I’ll be back.

  53. John Rocheleau - Zen-Moments responds:
    Posted: July 19th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    I sooo agree that there is an over-abundance of pain in life as is. We really just need to give each other a chance to find the good stuff, and forget about the fighting. I have seen way too much fighting and misery, and it is usually pointless. It is always destructive.

    Could the internet help save humanity by slowly bringing us together in conversation and idea sharing? I think it can. I am glad you decided to write about this. It’s good to have these reminders.

    John

    John Rocheleau - Zen-Moments’s last blog post..Save Your Marriage: Support the Best and Reject the Rest

  54. Juggling Frogs responds:
    Posted: July 27th, 2008 at 6:45 am

    Vered, I’m also a refuge from unintentional participation in a Blogging War.
    Multiple times, I’ve been baited and invited to join in, and ran for the hills. I guess I’m a serial draft dodger.

    I just discovered your blog (via your guest post on ZenHabits) today, but as a result of *this post* I’m subscribing. So there. Conflict Avoiders of the World, Unite!

  55. Lawrence Matthews responds:
    Posted: July 28th, 2008 at 8:16 am

    Conflict is inherent in the human machine.

    It’s why our species survived so effectively.

  56. Carey Suante responds:
    Posted: July 31st, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    There are always ppl out there who’d do anything for “publicity”. Paris Hilton comes to mind. Cheap and shortlived. Just stay clear from em.

    Carey Suante’s last blog post..What Do Korean Films Mean to Northeasterners?


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