Comments on: In Defense Of Plastic Surgery http://momgrind.com/2009/01/26/plastic-surgery/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:27:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alexis Thomas http://momgrind.com/2009/01/26/plastic-surgery/#comment-27768 Alexis Thomas Mon, 09 May 2011 17:20:22 +0000 http://momgrind.com/?p=1782#comment-27768 I don't get it, I thought that you should get any kind of surgery done to you. Why do people need it done, I am happy with my body even though I have a big forehead and nose. I don’t get it, I thought that you should get any kind of surgery done to you. Why do people need it done, I am happy with my body even though I have a big forehead and nose.

]]> By: Dr Naomi http://momgrind.com/2009/01/26/plastic-surgery/#comment-27757 Dr Naomi Mon, 09 May 2011 01:33:09 +0000 http://momgrind.com/?p=1782#comment-27757 I am obviously biased on this topic, as I am a cosmetic doctor. However, before I was a cosmetic doctor, I was a cosmetic patient, and this is an important distinction for me. I have always looked at my industry first from a consumer's perspective and then from the perspective of a provider. To me it is simply an issue of grooming and technology. ie Since the beginning of time, humans have attempted to make themselves more appealing. From cleopatra bathing in milk to improve her skin, to the age where women wore corsets to improve their figures, to blow drying, perming and dying our hair. Wanting to look good is nothing new. It's just that now we have the technology to make bigger, better and more varied changes to appearance in our beauty quest. The new technologies come with new risks, and our generation seems very at ease to take on the added level of risk. Obviously we are willing to take on increased risk for the potential of increased reward. The technology that our generation has available to it is awesome! That includes cosmetic procedures! Also I feel that this technology has lead to the democratization of beauty (sadly, only if one can afford it!). I am obviously biased on this topic, as I am a cosmetic doctor. However, before I was a cosmetic doctor, I was a cosmetic patient, and this is an important distinction for me. I have always looked at my industry first from a consumer’s perspective and then from the perspective of a provider.
To me it is simply an issue of grooming and technology. ie Since the beginning of time, humans have attempted to make themselves more appealing. From cleopatra bathing in milk to improve her skin, to the age where women wore corsets to improve their figures, to blow drying, perming and dying our hair. Wanting to look good is nothing new. It’s just that now we have the technology to make bigger, better and more varied changes to appearance in our beauty quest. The new technologies come with new risks, and our generation seems very at ease to take on the added level of risk. Obviously we are willing to take on increased risk for the potential of increased reward.
The technology that our generation has available to it is awesome! That includes cosmetic procedures!
Also I feel that this technology has lead to the democratization of beauty (sadly, only if one can afford it!).

]]> By: MomGrind: Best of 2009 | Blogger For Hire http://momgrind.com/2009/01/26/plastic-surgery/#comment-18941 MomGrind: Best of 2009 | Blogger For Hire Sat, 02 Jan 2010 04:01:38 +0000 http://momgrind.com/?p=1782#comment-18941 [...] In Defense of Plastic Surgery. A guest post by my beloved, real-life friend Dan Miller, who writes Artiphys, this post [...] [...] In Defense of Plastic Surgery. A guest post by my beloved, real-life friend Dan Miller, who writes Artiphys, this post [...]

]]> By: Can you age gracefully and have plastic surgery? http://momgrind.com/2009/01/26/plastic-surgery/#comment-11042 Can you age gracefully and have plastic surgery? Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:21:35 +0000 http://momgrind.com/?p=1782#comment-11042 [...] over at MomGrind was host to a guest blogger recently. Dan Miller wrote a post supporting cosmetic plastic surgery in order to defy the natural affects of aging. Those of you who know me, probably thought my [...] [...] over at MomGrind was host to a guest blogger recently. Dan Miller wrote a post supporting cosmetic plastic surgery in order to defy the natural affects of aging. Those of you who know me, probably thought my [...]

]]> By: MomGrind http://momgrind.com/2009/01/26/plastic-surgery/#comment-10135 MomGrind Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:06:37 +0000 http://momgrind.com/?p=1782#comment-10135 It was a compliment, Dan. I care too much about being politically correct. Anyway, I think your point regarding gender identity vs. age identity is valid. It was a compliment, Dan. I care too much about being politically correct. Anyway, I think your point regarding gender identity vs. age identity is valid.

]]> By: dan miller http://momgrind.com/2009/01/26/plastic-surgery/#comment-10128 dan miller Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:30:49 +0000 http://momgrind.com/?p=1782#comment-10128 > I’m not sure Dan is too worried about being offensive, though. Hmmm, MomGrind, that's not very charitable. I certainly don't mean to offend mindlessly. It's true I am not afraid of shocking people's sensibilities, if I think they are being hypocritical. In the case in point, I in fact have known quite a few transgendered people. I respect them totally, they have every right to make those decisions. My point was sort of the opposite of what I'm being accused of. I may have said it unartfully, but what I meant was that radical surgery to make yourself look different doesn't always meet your own expectations, or those of society. And yet, it is your right, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's not up to me to judge them and say they don't "look like a woman (or man) should", however it is merely honest to point out that, with today's technology, it is not always possible to change a person's apparent gender in a convincing way (assuming that is the goal). Much of it comes down to confidence: the transgendered people I've seen who come off as attractive are the ones who feel that way about themselves. That's sort of my whole point. What I find hypocritical here is a carefully politically correct stance about transgender, coupled with a free-for-all on putting down people who modify their body for "pure vanity". Old people should be "comfortable in their own skin". My point was, why don't we say that about gender? Because we (today) acknowledge that people have a right to self-determination, and HOW you present to society is part of that equation. We no longer say to someone who feels different than their born gender, "just be comfortable with what you were born with". We allow that they feel different, and they want to take steps to change their body accordingly. What I was trying to get at was that while we are careful not to lay our expectations on someone who changes their appearance to suit their gender identity, when it comes to age identity, we have the same old response -- live with what "God" gave you. Why the difference? I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone, and if I did, I apologize. -dan > I’m not sure Dan is too worried about being offensive, though.

Hmmm, MomGrind, that’s not very charitable. I certainly don’t mean to offend mindlessly. It’s true I am not afraid of shocking people’s sensibilities, if I think they are being hypocritical. In the case in point, I in fact have known quite a few transgendered people. I respect them totally, they have every right to make those decisions. My point was sort of the opposite of what I’m being accused of. I may have said it unartfully, but what I meant was that radical surgery to make yourself look different doesn’t always meet your own expectations, or those of society. And yet, it is your right, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It’s not up to me to judge them and say they don’t “look like a woman (or man) should”, however it is merely honest to point out that, with today’s technology, it is not always possible to change a person’s apparent gender in a convincing way (assuming that is the goal). Much of it comes down to confidence: the transgendered people I’ve seen who come off as attractive are the ones who feel that way about themselves. That’s sort of my whole point.

What I find hypocritical here is a carefully politically correct stance about transgender, coupled with a free-for-all on putting down people who modify their body for “pure vanity”. Old people should be “comfortable in their own skin”. My point was, why don’t we say that about gender? Because we (today) acknowledge that people have a right to self-determination, and HOW you present to society is part of that equation. We no longer say to someone who feels different than their born gender, “just be comfortable with what you were born with”. We allow that they feel different, and they want to take steps to change their body accordingly.

What I was trying to get at was that while we are careful not to lay our expectations on someone who changes their appearance to suit their gender identity, when it comes to age identity, we have the same old response — live with what “God” gave you. Why the difference?

I certainly didn’t mean to offend anyone, and if I did, I apologize.

-dan

]]> By: MomGrind http://momgrind.com/2009/01/26/plastic-surgery/#comment-10120 MomGrind Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:54:46 +0000 http://momgrind.com/?p=1782#comment-10120 Wesley, I agree it was an offensive thing to say. I'm not sure Dan is too worried about being offensive, though. Wesley, I agree it was an offensive thing to say. I’m not sure Dan is too worried about being offensive, though.

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