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		<title>By: Kathy &#124; Virtual Impax</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16681</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy &#124; Virtual Impax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ads are over the top.  I used to show dogs in conformation and there are a LOT of &quot;alternative lifestyle&quot; people engaged in that activity.   As a result, my kids not only knew about &quot;gay&quot; vs &quot;&quot;straight&quot; - they also KNEW and conversed with gay men and women.  That made the subject not so scary or even weird.  

&quot;What&#039;s up with Brett and Gary, Mom?&quot;  

&quot;Brett and Gary are life partners baby doll.  That means that they love each other the way Mommy and Daddy love each other.   We don&#039;t know WHY - but I suspect it&#039;s like how you don&#039;t like chicken but your sister does.  It&#039;s just the way God made them.  The Bible says it&#039;s wrong - but the Bible also tells us it&#039;s not our job to judge them - only to love them.&quot;  

As a result - being &quot;gay&quot; isn&#039;t a big deal in my house.  We are friends with gay couples - and one of my best friends in the world is a lesbian.  NO BIG DEAL!

With that said - I think if my children were exposed to EITHER of those ads in a public place- especially at a young age - the whole conversation wouldn&#039;t have been NEARLY as comfortable or natural.  I&#039;d hate to have ANY sex talk with a young child in front of either of those ads.  

&quot;What&#039;s going on in the picture, Mommy?&quot;  

&quot;Um... nothing natural OR beautiful baby!&quot;

UGH!  

What a shame - such beautiful scenery - the shot from the plane is SPECTACULAR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ads are over the top.  I used to show dogs in conformation and there are a LOT of &#8220;alternative lifestyle&#8221; people engaged in that activity.   As a result, my kids not only knew about &#8220;gay&#8221; vs &#8220;&#8221;straight&#8221; &#8211; they also KNEW and conversed with gay men and women.  That made the subject not so scary or even weird.  </p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s up with Brett and Gary, Mom?&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;Brett and Gary are life partners baby doll.  That means that they love each other the way Mommy and Daddy love each other.   We don&#8217;t know WHY &#8211; but I suspect it&#8217;s like how you don&#8217;t like chicken but your sister does.  It&#8217;s just the way God made them.  The Bible says it&#8217;s wrong &#8211; but the Bible also tells us it&#8217;s not our job to judge them &#8211; only to love them.&#8221;  </p>
<p>As a result &#8211; being &#8220;gay&#8221; isn&#8217;t a big deal in my house.  We are friends with gay couples &#8211; and one of my best friends in the world is a lesbian.  NO BIG DEAL!</p>
<p>With that said &#8211; I think if my children were exposed to EITHER of those ads in a public place- especially at a young age &#8211; the whole conversation wouldn&#8217;t have been NEARLY as comfortable or natural.  I&#8217;d hate to have ANY sex talk with a young child in front of either of those ads.  </p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s going on in the picture, Mommy?&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;Um&#8230; nothing natural OR beautiful baby!&#8221;</p>
<p>UGH!  </p>
<p>What a shame &#8211; such beautiful scenery &#8211; the shot from the plane is SPECTACULAR!</p>
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		<title>By: Jannie Funster</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16677</link>
		<dc:creator>Jannie Funster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If my child asked questions about those, I&#039;d answer as honestly as I could.  I would not feel as uncomfortable as I would&#039;ve even 6 months ago having her see them, as we&#039;ve had some birds and the bees chats since then, and those could help reinforce some of what we&#039;ve talked about, STDs specifically. 

P.S.  Lose a little weight, will ya!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my child asked questions about those, I&#8217;d answer as honestly as I could.  I would not feel as uncomfortable as I would&#8217;ve even 6 months ago having her see them, as we&#8217;ve had some birds and the bees chats since then, and those could help reinforce some of what we&#8217;ve talked about, STDs specifically. </p>
<p>P.S.  Lose a little weight, will ya!  <img src='http://momgrind.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BunnygotBlog</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16675</link>
		<dc:creator>BunnygotBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And about the ads. Sorry I got distracted with a call. 

I think these ads are ridiculous in a public place. Better off used in educating then plastered in public places where small children see them. 

To me, I could care less who sleeps with who or what sex. That is just something I find too personal and nobody&#039;s business. I do not judge and do not think one&#039;s sexual preference has a significance on their character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And about the ads. Sorry I got distracted with a call. </p>
<p>I think these ads are ridiculous in a public place. Better off used in educating then plastered in public places where small children see them. </p>
<p>To me, I could care less who sleeps with who or what sex. That is just something I find too personal and nobody&#8217;s business. I do not judge and do not think one&#8217;s sexual preference has a significance on their character.</p>
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		<title>By: BunnygotBlog</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16674</link>
		<dc:creator>BunnygotBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never been there but it looks like a great place to visit. I have been to Montreal and liked it very much.

Great post and photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never been there but it looks like a great place to visit. I have been to Montreal and liked it very much.</p>
<p>Great post and photos.</p>
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		<title>By: MomGrind</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16664</link>
		<dc:creator>MomGrind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hoff - WpBlogHost</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16662</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hoff - WpBlogHost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, that sounds a little bit weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, that sounds a little bit weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16660</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to the ads. I have no problem with them and would have no problem with children seeing these ads. When we are comfortable with our bodies and we teach our children to be comfortable with their bodies and sexuality then there is not an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the ads. I have no problem with them and would have no problem with children seeing these ads. When we are comfortable with our bodies and we teach our children to be comfortable with their bodies and sexuality then there is not an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Noble Savage</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16659</link>
		<dc:creator>Noble Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denying that these kinds of messages need to reach pre-teen and teenage children is exactly why we&#039;re always so dumbfounded at the teen sex and pregnancy rate. If you think this ad belongs in a bar (where only those over 21 years of age will see it) but not a bus stop (where teens tend to hang out and take public transport) then I have to say, I think you&#039;re a bit naive (general &#039;you&#039; not Vered specifically). 

Still not getting the whole &quot;But I don&#039;t want to have to explain it to little Johnny&quot; complaint either. There are age-appropriate responses for nearly every question a kid could ask, or simple redirection if you really can&#039;t think of anything to say. It&#039;s not like you have to say, &quot;Well, Johnny, sometimes men like to have sex with lots of other men or women might have sex with lots of men but this makes them get horrible diseases so it&#039;s important to use condoms.&quot; Come on. I&#039;m sure something vague about the importance of knowing the people you hug and taking responsibility for your health would suffice for a young child. 

But to prevent older kids from getting these kinds of important messages because of what a PRE-SCHOOLER might think or say? I just think that&#039;s silly, and wrong. It&#039;s a picture of two men embracing and another of a hetero couple kissing. Really? That&#039;s &quot;explicit?&quot; I&#039;ve seen more explicit stuff in the pages of women&#039;s magazines and on ads for soup. 

At any rate, I won&#039;t comment anymore on the subject as I think I&#039;m talking to myself here! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denying that these kinds of messages need to reach pre-teen and teenage children is exactly why we&#8217;re always so dumbfounded at the teen sex and pregnancy rate. If you think this ad belongs in a bar (where only those over 21 years of age will see it) but not a bus stop (where teens tend to hang out and take public transport) then I have to say, I think you&#8217;re a bit naive (general &#8216;you&#8217; not Vered specifically). </p>
<p>Still not getting the whole &#8220;But I don&#8217;t want to have to explain it to little Johnny&#8221; complaint either. There are age-appropriate responses for nearly every question a kid could ask, or simple redirection if you really can&#8217;t think of anything to say. It&#8217;s not like you have to say, &#8220;Well, Johnny, sometimes men like to have sex with lots of other men or women might have sex with lots of men but this makes them get horrible diseases so it&#8217;s important to use condoms.&#8221; Come on. I&#8217;m sure something vague about the importance of knowing the people you hug and taking responsibility for your health would suffice for a young child. </p>
<p>But to prevent older kids from getting these kinds of important messages because of what a PRE-SCHOOLER might think or say? I just think that&#8217;s silly, and wrong. It&#8217;s a picture of two men embracing and another of a hetero couple kissing. Really? That&#8217;s &#8220;explicit?&#8221; I&#8217;ve seen more explicit stuff in the pages of women&#8217;s magazines and on ads for soup. </p>
<p>At any rate, I won&#8217;t comment anymore on the subject as I think I&#8217;m talking to myself here! <img src='http://momgrind.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Avani Mehta</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16658</link>
		<dc:creator>Avani Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vered, seems like you had a good time in Vancouver. I would not be comfortable with these kind of ads. But then most Indians might not. Seeing them with parents or with children - both would be extremely uncomfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vered, seems like you had a good time in Vancouver. I would not be comfortable with these kind of ads. But then most Indians might not. Seeing them with parents or with children &#8211; both would be extremely uncomfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://momgrind.com/2009/08/23/visiting-vancouver/#comment-16656</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vered - I love your photos - the ones out the plane window are gorgeous! I&#039;ve been hearing Vancouver come up so many times since I started blogging - now I know a little bit about it. I don&#039;t know what I think about the ads - I do think many are too explicit for kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vered &#8211; I love your photos &#8211; the ones out the plane window are gorgeous! I&#8217;ve been hearing Vancouver come up so many times since I started blogging &#8211; now I know a little bit about it. I don&#8217;t know what I think about the ads &#8211; I do think many are too explicit for kids.</p>
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